Veritat Advisors Becoming NestWise

Since I'm in the middle of publishing my 4-part review of Veritat, here's a link that discusses the transition between Veritat and NestWise from Advisorone.com.

It's this paragraph, from the second page, that worries me:

The second addition will be “professionaly designed managed portfolios,” which are fee-based. “Some will be based on strategists from outside the firm and some will be based on the work of NestWise investment managers,” Stearns said, adding “they will be specifically tailored cost-effective options in this marketplace.”

I'm a big fan of indexing and I was specifically looking for a Fee-Only financial advisor. As far as I can tell NestWise hasn't indicated how they'll be operating yet, but I know that if these things disappear I'll end up starting my search for a financial advisor again.

Related: My review of Veritat Advisors.
     Part I
     Part II

Veritat Advisors: A Customer's Review - Part II: Fact Finder, Financial Plan and Execution

"Risk comes from not knowing what you are doing." - Warren Buffet

In Part I of my review I explored my initial conversation with Veritat Advisors. In this second part, I have decided to pay $250 for their initial financial assessment. I cover their Fact Finder, where you enter all of your financial data, and the Financial and Execution Plans, which are your advisor's advice for managing your money.

It's worth noting that Veritat has just announced that they are being bought by NestWise LLC, a subsidiary of LPL Financial Holdings Inc. There's not a lot of information available, yet, on what will change along with the ownership, but in a letter sent to customers today we were informed that service will continue and our financial advisor will remain the same.

A Man, A Plan, A Canal. Fact Finder.

The Fact Finder. You'll spend plenty of time here
shortly after you pay for Veritat.

A detailed financial plan starts with gathering the details of your goals, assets, income and expenses in the Fact Finder.

Done well, the Fact Finder will take a couple of hours to complete. During this time you will enter your savings account values, investment account holdings, spending habits, and answer other personal information about your financial life. It can be a bit tedious and I can't help but wonder whether the approach Personal Capital (or, to a lesser extent, Mint) takes might be a better way. Users give Personal Capital login authorization to view their accounts, so information about spending, savings and holdings are all automatically collected--and probably in a more accurate and detailed format than any user would ever enter on their own.* Something like this could make Veritat a one-stop-shop for both daily financial updates (checking credit card and checking statements) and long-term needs (investments and long-term goals.)

See a glaring deficiency here?
I didn't--until I completed the
Fact Finder.

But, for now at least, the Fact Finder is not automated. A user will have to go through the process of researching and informing about all accounts. Any tedium, though, is certainly not for nothing. If you haven't done it for yourself, the simple act of gathering and researching all of the data together to complete the Fact Finder is of tremendous value. Pulling together savings accounts, retirement accounts, investment accounts and property values is not a fun day's work--especially if you are as eclectically invested as I am--but it gives you the opportunity to think about your investments and the wisdom of your decisions so far.

Going through the Fact Finder, you may even figure out some of your deficiencies on your own. For me, the most glaring example was the estate planning section (screenshot to the left.) The one page where I had to enter that I've made no effort on a will or health care decisions was enough of a kick-in-the-pants to get me started on those tasks, even without waiting for the planner's advice.

After you've entered your personal and financial information you'll come to the Life Goals section. On my first run through the Fact Finder I set only one goal: the goal to buy a new home in the next few years.

Don't do that.

Instead, think about all of your financial goals and plans that take money and try to summarize them. Do you want to travel every year on a decent vacation? Include that. Do you want to buy a new car every 7 years? Include that. Do you want to save money for your children's college education? Include that, too.

When I first received my financial plan my money was used for buying a home and retirement. Nothing else. Only after realizing my mistake, and then going back and completing a more realistic assessment of my financial goals, did I get a financial plan that would actually work for me in the real world.

My mistake, though, led to one of the most favorable interactions I had with Veritat. It was my advisor who recommended that I add more goals. And my advisor re-did his work when I actually updated those goals. It's worth pointing out that, due to Veritat's pricing model, this did not cost me anything extra. I definitely came away favorably impressed, with the feeling that Veritat is working to set their clients up on a good and realistic path.

Planning and Execution

The payoff for all of your patience entering in financial information is the next two meetings you'll have with your advisor based on all your input. The meetings are centered around two documents, a Financial Plan which you'll receive shortly after your Fact Finder is submitted, and an Execution Plan, which you'll receive shortly after your discussion of the Financial Plan.

Less red and more green is always good.

Financial Plan Meeting

The financial plan starts with a dashboard and a summary of your goals. There's a lot of information in the document and, unfortunately, the document itself requires some explaining. That being said, all of my questions were answered on the call with my financial advisor.

Just below is a list of the sections of the feedback, along with a brief description of what is in the section and my thoughts on that section:

• 

  The Dashboard
  Showing how much change is necessary,
  and whether or not I can reach my goals.

  Dashboard: A high-level overview of whether or not you are on track for your goals (see the screenshot to the right, as well as the one just above that.)
• Goal Summary: This is a list of all of your goals, when they will happen, the minimum and maximum dollar estimate you need to make the goal happen, your priority for the goal and the recommendations that come from your financial plan. When you get the financial plan it will be worthwhile to check and see that your goals are all there and adequately funded. I know that I looked at mine and realized that some priorities that I thought were High were actually Medium or Low, and vice-versa.
• Lifetime Net Worth: This is a page showing a projection for how your investments and assets will appreciate over time. My advisor warned that it's not very accurate--meaning, I believe, that the year-by-year aspect of the projection could be very inaccurate, but if historical trends continue my investments might grow something akin to what is indicated.
• Budget: A high-level overview of your income, expenses and savings for the rest of the current year and the entire next year. Honestly, this page was just confusing to me--even after explanation I still struggle to understand it. Fortunately, it's an overview page, so it's not that important in the scheme of things.
• Recommended Saving and Debt Repayment: This is the first real page of substance in the financial plan. It contains your goals, how much of your current money you're going to allocate to them, how much you're going to save for them in the remainder of the current year, and how much you will save for them in the next year. The specifics of how you will do this and where you will put the money will be covered in the execution plan later. Right now we're just looking at how much and when.

• 

  The recommended change to my portfolio allocations.
  I've been a very aggressive investor and it's probably
  time for me to settle down a bit.

  Investment Portfolio: For each of your investment accounts there is a pie chart showing your current and recommended allocation of stocks and bonds. Your advisor will ask you what funds are available in your investment accounts and make recommendations based on those choices. That happens outside of the Planning and Execution documents.
• Investment Implementation: Like the Recommended Saving and Debt Repayment page, this page will show you how much to be saving in each investment account over the year, along with a more specific breakdown of the target portfolio (large cap, small cap, international, bond, cash.)
• Insurance Portfolio: Includes coverage recommendations for life insurance, accidental death & dismemberment, and long-term care insurance. My advisor stated that it's a start to the insurance conversation, but not the final picture. I am informed that the calculation used for life insurance is the Net Present Value (NPV) of that person's income along with debt repayment. For me, personally, this is too high as I don't want my wife to have too big a reason to put me out of her misery. For single income families and other situations this figure might be much more reasonable.

• 

  I knew I had the wrong answers!

  Estate & Will: A page dedicated to your eventual demise. Here you'll see the four documents Veritat thinks you should have and whether or not you should complete them. It's worth noting that Veritat also recommends companies you can use to complete the forms. And, since Veritat should not be making any money from these companies because they are fee-only planners, I am generally of the impression that they are decent companies at low cost.

Execution Plan and Meeting

Once you and your financial planner have gone through and verified the financial plan, your advisor will have you schedule an execution plan meeting. Honestly this is the most exciting part: this is the document that will guide all of the changes you are about to make to your investments. Once again, I'll go through section-by-section:

• Risk Management: This section had helpful tips on how to set up insurance, estate, and will documents. Veritat recommended providers and gave specific information that you would need to insure yourself appropriately. This information should make it relatively easy and convenient to set up the documents with these services, though I think a truly prudent investor will do at least a quick search of competitors insurance rates, as well.
• Future Goals: This section summarizes your goal spending for the remainder of this year and all of next year, shows how much is allocated for that goal, and informs you which account the money will be taken from.
• Portfolio Action Plan: A summary, for this year and next, of saving, spending and transfers to and from each account.
• Transaction Plan: A list of money to save, money to transfer and rebalances to perform on each of your accounts over the course of this year and the next. This is the bulk of the execution plan.
• Portfolio Management: A reminder about Veritat's portfolio management service. I declined the service and, to their credit, never felt any pressure to join.
• Disclosures and Summaries: There's actually a lot of good information in the summaries of the companies that Veritat recommends here.

While reading the execution plan, before the execution meeting with my advisor, one of my disappointments in the execution plan was that I didn't feel like it was an easy document to work from. It contains a ton of helpful data, but it's a bit hard to pick out a list of tasks that I'll need to do in order to implement my plan.

One of my checklist tasks.

But then, after the execution meeting, Veritat surprised me. On the website they gave me a list of tasks to complete, outlining everything I was supposed to do and allowing me to fill in the values that I actually used. Seriously, I think these checklists are great and, now that I know they exist, my plan is to use them to go through my tasks and the execution plan to figure out how I'm going to get it done.

Summary

And so I can truthfully report that I have been pleased with my initial experience with Veritat. I do feel like I've gotten my money's worth for my financial plan, both in direction and the efforts of my financial planner. I'm pleased enough that I'm planning to stay on as a monthly subscriber for at least another half year, to see if I continue to derive value from their service--although my plans may change as they merge and transition to NestWise. (Part IV of my review will discuss either the reason I left Veritat/NestWise during the transition or my impression on how worthwhile the $40/month service and quarterly meetings are if the transition goes smoothly.)

In Part III of my review I'll do a brief look at the advice I received from Veritat and how it compares to the do-it-yourself financial site bogleheads.org, but for the many of us who don't want to spend hours thinking about our finances, Veritat seems like a great way to go. If you've been considering using a financial advisor I would definitely try Veritat first. It won't cost you much, compared to an in-person advisor, and it might just cover everything you need.

The Good

• My financial advisor recommending that I add more goals, even though it made more work for him.
• The final checklist of actions I received from Veritat was top notch and will be useful for reporting what I actually did, since it might vary a bit from their recommendations.
• Throughout the experience I have learned a lot and feel like I am working towards a more secure financial future.

The Bad

• The Financial Plan and Execution Plan are difficult to interpret without assistance.

The Ugly

• The time spent gathering accounts and the initial data for the Financial Plan.
• The length of this post.

*: The disadvantage in the Personal Capital/Mint approach is that you must give the sites your personal log-ins for your savings and investment accounts. While both the sites discuss their security and, I believe, have gone to great lengths to protect their user's data, the payoff for a rogue employee or successful hacker could be in the billions of dollars. That's a big target. And, even while I have been a happy user of Mint for over a year now, this does not set my mind at ease. Giving all of my banking credentials to yet another company is something I'd generally like to avoid.

LendStats Filters Down

Bummer. From KenL, creator of LendStats:

My original goals with LendStats were to find out what the real returns were and to figure out how p2p lending could be profitable for lenders (remember people... there was a time when p2p lending was not profitable for lenders). Both of those goals and a whole lot more have been accomplished. So I feel no urgency to get the filters up and running again. Also with all the negativity out there aimed at LendStats, I'm really not that interested in keeping things going anymore. I was working on LendStats largely because I found it fun, but the fun has slowly disappeared and with that so has my motivation to keep working on the site.

and

I'm just tired of it, and I don't feel like wasting my time and energy anymore. And after 3 years if LendStats is still in an embryonic state, then I guess I really should call it quits.

It's too bad. LendStats has been a great resource for the community and helped me, personally, with my returns on Prosper and LendingClub. Additionally, LendStats has one of the best P2P forums on the net--with participants who are genuinely thoughtful and helpful.

Ken, thank you for all of the work you've put into LendStats. I have certainly appreciated it. I'm sad to see the feature go, but I certainly understand the desire to move on. Good luck in whatever you choose to focus on next!

Veritat Advisors: A Customer's Review - Part I: Trial and Free Assessment

"There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know." - Donald Rumsfeld

I've slowly come to realize that, in regards to my finances, I have no idea what I'm doing. Yes, I scrimp and save. Yes, I max out the company match on my 401k. But beyond the basics, I have many questions. Worse yet, the more I learn the more I realize that I know nothing.

So I seek advice. And after a long, grueling internet search for local financial advisors, contemplation about fee-only advisors and advisors from an investment house, and the idea to just ask on some intelligent financial forums, I decided to try the online firm Veritat Advisors.

I'm wary, though. While there are many articles covering Veritat's introduction to the internet, I was hard-pressed to find many reviews by actual customers*.

Veritat had piqued my curiosity, though, and the initial financial review, at $250, wasn't going to break the bank. So I decided to give them a shot and write about my experience as a paying customer. So, without further ado, part one of my review of Veritat Advisors:

14 Day Free Trial

Veritat asks a few simple questions before setting up
your free, introductory financial assessment, covering
goals, income, assets and investment experience.
If you don't write a lot in the free text boxes it's
probably a 5 minute exercise. 

Veritat welcomes potential customers with a 14 Day Free Trial. This is a time for the user to get acquainted with their website, submit some extremely basic financial information, pick an advisor and set up a 15-minute call to discuss the financial assessment they created based on that basic financial information.

The Website

There's not a lot of complexity to Veritat's website, and that's a good thing. The sections are broken down into Messaging, Tasks, Vault (which is a place for you to receive documents from your advisor and upload documents to your advisor), Fact Finder (where you'll add all of your financial information), and the Learning Center.

During the free trial, the most interesting thing you can do is to browse Veritat's Learning Center. I was pleasantly surprised by the documents there. They struck me as easy-to-understand jumping-off points for the topics they covered. They are organized both by topic and by life event. Covered topics include things like "How Much Life Insurance Do You Need" and "Alternatives to Using Long-Term Care Insurance." Covered sections include "Starting A Family"and "Caring For An Aging Parent." The articles here aren't particularly deep discussions of the topic, but I think many people will be able to find some good helpful hints in this section.

Financial Assessment

During your initial account setup, you'll be asked some basic financial questions in preparation for your free 15-minute financial assessment. If you're like me, warning bells go off when you read about the 15-minute financial assessment after entering only very limited information. It sure sounds like it's going to be a sales call.

I was actually pleasantly surprised. While the financial assessment document was not useful in itself, it was a good jumping-off point for a conversation about what sort of advice I was looking for and what the company offers. I was pleased with the conversation with my financial advisor and, more importantly, I felt like he was completely open about the scope of their services. When I asked about options beyond Veritat's scope of service there was no hemming or hawing. I was informed that they wouldn't be much help with those questions and, in some cases, I was guided to a better source to answer my questions.

The meat of the Financial Assessment. 

Before your financial assessment begins you'll get a financial assessment document. There's a fair bit of marketing in the assessment, with the only real meat being a quick overview of your status for a few key goals, like Retirement, Investments, Education and Insurance.

Honestly I would have liked to see Veritat go farther with the assessment. Obviously they can't make amazing judgements based off of the limited information they collect during the free trial period, but I would think that they could do a quick "you might benefit from..." or "you might try to avoid..." section. These sections could be personalized to discuss some of the common pitfalls people encounter while striving to achieve the goals the client picked during the assessment.

The Story So Far

After the free assessment I had a choice to make: did I want to pay Veritat to develop a full financial plan or did I want to be done with them? I was still curious and satisfied enough with my initial conversation with them that I decided to move forward and purchase the Financial Plan (a one-time cost of $250.) In Part II, I'll write about the process of coming up with a Financial Plan, including entering data into the Fact Finder, the Financial Plan I received, and the Execution Plan I've been asked to follow.

My summary of the free trial:

The Good

• Learning Center documents are helpful overviews of financial topics.
• The initial conversation with my advisor was direct and honest when he talked about what Veritat could and couldn't do for me.

The Bad

• The free Financial Assessment document seems like a waste of time. I'm certain they could do something better, even with the limited information they have.

The Ugly

• That worry that you're going to spend 15 minutes getting a hard sell.

*: I was able to find these reviews but, frankly, they hit on too many of Veritat's marketing points for me to trust. And this Go Girl Finance review gives a bit more information but is still marred by the free financial plan they received and their advertising relationship with Veritat.

Update: As I've been writing this review, Veritat has announced that they are being bought by NestWise LLC, a subsidiary of LPL Financial Holdings Inc. There's not a lot of information available, yet, on what will change along with the ownership, but in a letter sent to customers today we were informed that service will continue and our financial advisor will remain the same.